User talk:Chaosian

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Hello!
Hi! Glad to see you like my updates. I'm from Spain, and i play Metro 2033 when was released. I finished the game maybe 6 times, and i love it, i think is the best game ever! Also i read the two books and are just fantastic but i prefer the game storyline.

Feel free to check my updates and fix some info if you will.

Theme
Hey, I'm thinking about being a lot more active here in the future (when I'm not busy on my other wkikis), so thought I could try my hand at making a theme for this wiki. You can check it out here. If you like any part of the theme, feel free to use it. If you like it, but want something changed, just let me know and I'll get on it as soon as possible. Cheers :) --Anon(Talk) 15:51, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hey thats great, i'll se about geting it implimented into the wikia. Looks very much like the old theme Smish34 16:01, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Edit: Looks great, i wasnt able to enable the cutom header and footer, the Logo is good and identifies us as 'Metro 2033' wikia. instead of 'generic wikia title #3' Smish34 16:10, May 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * To change the header and footer, you'll have to put this:

.WikiaHeader { background-image:url(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/anontest/images/0/0f/M_2033_header_ds.jpg) !important; }

.WikiaFooter .toolbar { background-image:url(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/anontest/images/1/1f/M_2033_footer_ds.jpg) !important; }


 * on MediaWiki:Wikia.css (needs to be created).


 * Also, to get the background with full quality, you can put this on there too ;)

/*********** BG image ***********/

body { background:url("http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/anontest/images/f/f8/Metro_2033_bg.jpg") no-repeat center top #000000 !important; }


 * --Anon(Talk) 16:41, May 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well i am using the 'My Tools' option. The highest possible quality that it can have is 100kb. Smish34 16:50, May 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well i am using the 'My Tools' option. The highest possible quality that it can have is 100kb. Smish34 16:50, May 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * If you copy and paste the code into the MediaWiki:Wikia.css, the 100kb limit won't matter :) --Anon(Talk) 18:11, May 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow... this is over my head for sure. But you guys can go right on ahead, this looks awesome! Chaos ian7 18:30, May 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow... this is over my head for sure. But you guys can go right on ahead, this looks awesome! Chaos ian7 18:30, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Admin
Hey im wondering if you could bump me up to Beurocrat. I dont think i need to 'prove' myself, and i'm already a sysop/editor.Smish34 19:37, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, yeah sure thing. I'm at school right now so I don't have acess to all my resources but when I get home I'll work on that. You clearly deserve it though. = ) Chaos ian7 19:42, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. If you dont know how to do it, search special, and im sure its one of those pagesSmish34 19:43, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'm back. And thanks for the tip, I've never done that sort of thing before. Chaos ian7 22:30, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Badges
Ive requested that this wikia has badges. Wikia central should be getting back to me soon about it. Thye hopefully will be giving us time to edit them and make appropriate changes to themSmish34 21:20, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan. Chaos ian7 22:31, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Featured Article,badges etc
I think Once per week and the featured Pic should be once every two weeks.

And im sure youve seen the badges i got for us. We can edit them in a bunch of different ways and change the Pic. We should also start to make evry Achievement Page and name them xxxxxxx (Achievement).Smish34 20:25, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. I've got some time today so I can rename all the old achievements. And where are the badge controlls. I don't see them anywhere. Chaos ian7 20:58, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, ive already started, also dont forget to put them in the Achievements Catagory (just below the text box on the edit page). Go onto your profile page, and see on the right where it detailes your achievements, go to the bottom of that Box, there should be a customize button in red. Smish34 21:01, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thanks. And yeah I've been categorizing them. Chaos ian7 21:02, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Book use
Yeah forthreich is the user. He'sgot a lot of Knowledge of the Book. He's really good at making sure there is a lot of detailed information on thepages Smish34 13:44, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
About time someone took care of the wiki. Good job! 178.183.255.194 19:10, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Categories
Im going to do a huge catgory overhaul. We need to have factions and stations

E.g Hunter: Ranger, Human, chracter, Sparta, Exhibition

or Eugine: Character, human, Exhibition, Riga

Smish34 22:08, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Last Light Stuff
A huge announcement typething today. Kotaku,Gameinformer,joystiq and others all had reviews on Last Light as well as a load of screenshots a trailer. Tons of stuff. Ive updated a loadof articles and added a bunch ofpics.It sounds like its going to be awesome. Cant wait for it.Smish34-Admin, Bureaucrat and Editor 21:19, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

I think you meen, preview. Yeah I unofficial found out because of your edit and images just now, haha. I'm still in computers class right now so I haven't seen the anouncment in full. For the meetime however we need to add the Metro 2033 category to all the apropriate Metro 2033 pages. I was also thinking that we should merge the Metro 2033 (Videogame) page with the category page, even if that would leave a redirrect mess (because Metro 2033 leads to the disambiguation right now). Chaos ian7 21:54, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Oh and I might have screwed up in calling it Videogame, and all the videogame redirects as I believe the offical term of the medium is "video game" with a space. Fffffuuuuu-- Chaos ian7 21:56, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Ok,idont know how that would be done. But i'll look around to see if i can do it. Smish34-Admin, Bureaucrat and Editor 22:01, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

I'm home now so I can fix it up. To find links to a page use the "What Links Here" tool at the bottom tab. Chaos ian7 22:34, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Great work. Im sorry i couldnt help out with it. I honestly have no idea how to do it. Unless its more of manual copying info. Smish34-Admin, Bureaucrat and Editor 23:32, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. Hey you know what you could do that would help though. Right now I'm adding the Metro 2033 category to all the Metro 2033 - videogame relevant - pages. I'm at B or so, if you had the time and wanted to do some categorizing you could start and Z and work your way up. Chaos ian7 23:34, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, so i just add the Category Metro 2033 videogame? Smish34-Admin, Bureaucrat and Editor 23:36, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah just categorize them into: Metro 2033, like at the bottom with characters / weapons or whatever. = ) Chaos ian7 23:37, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Screenshot
Hopefully they deliver. <font color="green" size="3px">Smish34-Admin, Bureaucrat and Editor 17:14, June 7, 2011 (UTC)



Holy hell, they actually agreed. This is awesome Smish, very cool that they agreed.Chaos ian7 17:19, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

I know its great. And they ust announced the game for the new Nintendo console The Wii-U <font color="green" size="3px">Smish34-Admin, Bureaucrat and Editor 17:21, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.
Thanks for that info mate, I've seen some pages that are like the ones you described. I'll practice the linking stuff a bit. See ya round. Smokey McPott 12:31, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Good luck to ya. Chaos ian7 14:45, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Not a problem.
Not a problem, I try to fix grammar and spelling problems as well as add to pages that I have knowledge on. Anyway, Thanks for that, it's nice to get a compliment now and then. I also have lots of work to do for school but I try to space it out. I've been doing a bit of 3D modeling aswell so that using up my time.

Cheers. Smokey McPott 07:26, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Achievements/badges
Fantastic work on the icons. Really look great. I thought they would be pixelated becasue of such a small image, but they came out really polished/Smish34 (talk) 23:34, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Heh, that would be due more to the wonders of technology than my skill. Glad you liked them, I like the result as well. Chaos ian7 03:03, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

New Editor
You probably have the message at the bottom of the screen about the new editor. Ive endabled it as a trial period for 3 days. Im going to change back to the normal one if you are not a fan of it. I think its ok and i could get used to it, but ultimatley, it can be reverted back to the old style if we both agree. Only us two can use this feature (i think) and we can only change it back Smish34 (talk) 22:05, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Home page
I saw your note on the main page. The reason that the home page cannot be edited in the rich text editor is because of the [Special:Allpages|{NUMBEROFARTICLES}] (with extra brackets). This counts as complex code, and the rich text editor is unable to interpret it. Just thought that might shed some light on the situation. A few simple commands for html can be found here if you need them, it's fairly easy to get a grip of; in fact, I prefer to edit in source mode, there's a lot more things that you can do. I don't know if you personally needed these, or if the message was just to keep people who don't know what they're doing away. Hope that clears the home page situation up (if there was one in the first place?). I'm new to the wiki so I have no idea who anyone is, but since it was your message I felt that I should reply to you. Grammarlad(talk) 15:31, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hey yeah, thanks for the tip. I took a basic HTML course at school and have been using that as the base of my editing knowlage but it's still nice to have a little background info too. Chaos ian7 18:22, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Good stuff. If you need anything hideous done in html (fairly unlikely), you can always do it in rich text on another page, then switch to source mode and fiddle with the different code. Eventually you'll have something you like the look of and you can copy and paste it to wherever you want it. For instance, tables are a little tricky in html, but are fairly easy in rich text. Grammarlad(talk) 20:41, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Slider - Metro 2033 Wiki:Sandbox
I think i've fixed the problem with the slider -- Chief 10:42, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * :Sandbox

Looks like you did! Thanks for the help. Chaos ian7 18:13, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Additional Access
Thankyou, I think that would be cool. I'll definately be around here and I'll also be contributing alot more when Last Light comes out. Having said that, what are the responsibilities of being a bureaucrat, sysop, or rollback member? Just so I know what to do if you do make me one. Thanks again. Smokey McPott 01:07, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I've read the page from the link you posted. I understand what each do so If your going to make me either one I'm willing to fulfill that duty to the best of my ability.

Cheers. Smokey McPott 00:56, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, i completly agree with you guys. Although i think full adminship is a little far, but Editor and Sysop responsibilities are completly agreeable. Smish34 (talk) 08:55, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Template Help
Hey Chaos, thanks for granting me sysop privillages. Can you tell me how to create a new template? similar to the one you made for the metro levels? Cheers Smokey McPott 07:34, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for that, I made a weapon box so people can switch to weapon pages quickly, it's in a similar style of the ones on the CoD wiki. heres a link to it. Smokey McPott 02:08, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot to mention that I was working on another one for the Metro 2033 achievements, i've finished that now and edited the pages, but for some reason my comp wouldn't let me remove the '(Achievement)' part. Smokey McPott 03:55, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Nice!!!
I see you removed alot of the 'Gameplay' tags. Sorry I added them, as I saw that a few already had them so I assumed that tht category went with them (my bad). Atleast I hope my nav box I made helped. Smokey McPott 18:23, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Subject to change
Hey, i made a new template for the Metro Last Light pages. "Subject to Change". Its used for all Last Light pages since we dont know all the facts yet. It makes it so that if 4A Mention a new weapon without going into it and we make a page, it means that it doesnt turn into a stub stright away. It looks like this so dont get worried if you see the category pages filled with this image. Its normal. Smish34 (talk) 22:16, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

A very good idea. I can see this is going to be quite handy. = D Chaos ian7 02:04, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. So far i have done them on all pages in the Last Light category. Kinda hard to make though, so i resorted to making an image with the words i need. So if you look at the raw template, its just one image. An easy work around for that kind of problem. Also asim going through the book im going to addmore pages of characters (Even if they are quite minor) and places. So far im on Oleg, then im gonna do anton nextSmish34 (talk) 02:37, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Good show. Tell me if I can help and keep up the good work. Chaos ian7 02:51, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Walkthrough
Do you mind embedding YouTube videos from this playthrough to each respective level page? Each level has it's own separate video which is not divided in parts. 22:45, July 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll do it now for you since Chaos isnt on yet. Great videos though, nice quality, i see alot of Shakey cam videos where some kid holds it up to his xbox. Smish34 (talk) 22:50, July 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. The walkthrough was all done in stealth, and no humans were killed besides the obligatory extermination of a bandit camp at Lost Tunnels near Riga Station. It is non-intuitive, took some time to study via trial and error, but that's how the game was originally intended to be played by the developers. 01:00, July 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, i was impressed by your patients during some of the levels. I did a similar thing on Deus Ex Invisable war where i tried to go through a no kill playthrough. It was frustrating, but i did have tranq weapons. I didnt watch too much but what i did see you stuck with the Bastard near the end. Why was that? For stealth? if so i would say the VSV would be the much better choise,but then again you didnt kill any humans, apart from Lost Tunnels and Trolly Combat. And the embedding system was such a bitch. Really over complicated. I had to embedd it once, delete it, then again so it would show the thumbnail video. But great work on theplaythrough, there really should be an achievement for that. Smish34 (talk) 01:12, July 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * It was more of a self-imposed set of rules because after 300 hours in-game it doesn't provide much of a challenge. The full set is in the descriptions of each video in the playlist. 01:22, July 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've arived! Just in time to be useless (yet again)! And yet on another note I'm also absolutely blown away that you have 300 hours on 2033. I'm the direct admin and I've only got slightly over 90. You must really love Metro! Chaos ian7 04:17, July 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, I do like it quite a lot. I can't say it's the best game I've played, but it has kept me interested longer than any other FPS besides Stalker and Half Life series. 13:10, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

HTML Homepage help
Hey, i had an idea to put in Links (with thumbnail images) to the Last Light social media pages. (Twitter, Facebook and the Last Light Forums (I did a deal with the owner/admin of the forums to advertise the wikia and vice versa)) Problem is i am HTML stupid, so could you help me with adding three images in a Nav-bar between the "Wikia contains spoliers" disclaimer and the left and right columns? I have the images just no idea how to set them out and link them. Smish34 19:49, July 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah sure I can help you. I may require some real time help however, IE: Steam because I can't really remember how to do that off the top of my head. I'll look back on some old notes though and refer to other websites or Wikis. Sounds like a good idea though. Chaos ian7 19:53, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, what excatly do you have in mind? Do you meen like thumbnails such as those you can find on the Vault's or Combine Overwiki's frontpage (which link to other parts of the Vault) or something else? The Combine Overwiki may have what you want. They have category linking images done through this code:



Games

Basically, this is part of a table. It has an image which was uploaded to the wiki which when clicked on has an internal link. External links, like what you want will replace the internal link code with something more like this:

google

Theres also stalized text under it which does the same thing.

If you're not looking for something like that, over at the vault they did it with something that looks to me like templates. "s" - I have no idea. You may also look at the Dead Space Wiki which has a nice Twitter link. Chaos ian7 20:46, July 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * I like the Vaults one where it directs you to different pages. I think we should have something like that. I'll try that code, see if it works, and for the link does it just go, the google example link instead of category: Wiki ? -- Smish34 21:12, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, kinda. You'd use something more along the lines of:



[google]

I think that would work. You might want to look at more external links under source code though if it doesn't work. Chaos ian7 21:27, July 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Dont worry about it, i scrapped it. After experimenting with it for about half an hour, it just doesnt want to align properly, and if it does the text pokes out. And along with that the Forum site has been suspended. Dont worry about it though.-- Smish34 21:39, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Aww. Why did it suspend? It sounded cool. Chaos ian7 22:36, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Dont know. Maybe it was because it wasnt official. Although it didnt seem too "Populated" i think there were about 15-ish members

Templates
How do you like new weapon list templates? 18:48, August 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey i saw them, they look kinda....fat, not in a bad way, but kinda big and vibrant, they dont seem to blend as much. If you can get it to be hidden, (ith the small [Hide] box, then you can put them on every page, if not were gonna keep the old ones since they blend with the page a bit more Smish34 19:57, August 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * They are quite 'In your face' with it, but thats fine. Oh yeah, Smish I have been looking for ways to enable an auto-hide feature to them but it keeps buggering them up, so I'm using a range of things. None have been successful, so it might take a while. Smokey McPott 20:12, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Why am I always the last one to see the messages on my talk page? And why do the problems always seem to be solved before I get to read them? Reguardless, I really like them. As Smish stated, they're much fatter which, ironically, makes them look more profesional. Chaos ian7 05:34, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Forum:Template_hide_codes 21:22, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

More templates added. We will need a big Metro 2033 levels clean up though. Any help tidying up the pages is appreciated. 17:13, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Absolutely, I agree. I can help add templates and move - add the walkthroughs today when my class isn't doing anything. Chaos ian7 17:15, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * It would be very nice. Start from the last level and I'll be moving from the start. 17:26, August 2, 2011 (UTC)'
 * I'll be with you in a moment. I gotta make a cat first. Chaos ian7 17:29, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll be with you in a moment. I gotta make a cat first. Chaos ian7 17:29, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Good work
Good work.....that is all

Kidding, great work on the templates. It seems that everyone else on this wikia can actually make proper templates, am i the only one? BUT.....http://metro2033.wikia.com/wiki/Metro_2033_Walkthrough, that page has a walkthrough, or do you mean a detailed step by step? because i can do that for you. Easy. Also thanks for making the achievement icons, i added that "Track" (thats what its called) and only needed a temp image, and that image suited well. I found out we can add a lot more Badges if we want to. Smish34 18:58, August 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'd love to take all the credit-, so I think I will.


 * Also kidding. it wasn't really my idea to make the template, I'm just helping implement them. I was thinking what we could do is tear that page apart and implement it in pieces in which we could put on each level's walkthrough page. Some pages also have a walkthrough themselves and we could also implement those. I'm also gonna have lunch right now, so I'll talk to you in a bit. Chaos ian7 19:01, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Back. Resume work!Chaos ian7 19:41, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Back. Resume work!Chaos ian7 19:41, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Walkthrough
Probably we should move embedded videos too. 22:46, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Good idea. Chaos ian7 04:49, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Why not just keep the walkthrough on the actual pages. For someone trying to find the walkthrough theywill just skim thepage to seeif its there, instead oflooking for the small link under the title. Why have so many pages just for something that would be better suited for the main page. Smish34 07:10, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Because we can have a page for level description and a separate page with walkthrough if somebody doesn't want to see spoilers. 12:03, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I have to say that I agree with Smish, This ain't the cod wiki, we don't need tons of pages to cover content that can still be accurately displayed on the same page. I can see where your coming from, but In my eyes, it's un-needed. just adding my two centsSmokey McPott 11:05, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. Personally I like to see small pages which's content isn't cluttered up by walkthroughs IE: Child. The walkthroughs themselves do not do a whole lot of good for the pages in terms of content as whenever a walkthrough is present other sections tend to suffer slightly, I don't know if this is due to the page's length or whatever but a good example of this is Outpost. Yes it adds a large number to the page count, which could use a boost anyways, but if the walkthroughs were on different pages it would also bring attention to pages which currently have unsatisfactory levels of content. Chaos ian7 15:31, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, i think we need to at least have a clear link to the walkthrough. While the star underneath the image is nice, i think we need to have a link at the top, similar to the Category pages that also have standalone pages. And i think we should keep the Video Walkthroughs on the main page to at least have some content Smish34 17:49, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well if it works, it works. I'm happy with how that looks right now. If I get a good chance I'll work on content for those later on today. If nobody objects. Chaos ian7 20:09, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * The link will appear when you actually create the page, but if there is no page with a walkthrough - it will ask to write one. Here: http://metro2033.wikia.com/wiki/Prologue_(Level) I created an empty page with text "test" in it. The template automatically changed to: :Metro Wiki has a walkthrough guide to this level, Prologue (Level). See Prologue (Level)/Walkthrough. It's as simple as it gets. If you don't like the position of the link - just edit the template.
 * 18:10, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

I did the one for Lost Tunnels, but i would like to call dibs on Defence, Dungeon and the Caves. Smish34 20:22, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good- go ahead in fact. Chaos ian7 20:23, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Looks like smish beat me to those ones. Ive got quite a few drafts written up in MS word (about 20 of them). I've been off school sick and i've been playing metro so I add more to them while it's fresh in my mind. I've already done ones for Polis, Armory and Alley. Also, I made a Walkthrough Category page, so add that category if you make any. Lastly, I'm working on wrighting down each of Artyoms dialogue for the start of each level and i may add each of them to their pages, tell me what you think of that. And Im also working on getting a transcript of the dialogue but that seems like a lot of effort. well we'll see how that turns out. laters. Smokey McPott 16:58, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Transcript (Continued from Walkthrough)
Good idea like a good set of idea. Tell me if you need any help with those, I'd be happy to assist. Chaos ian7 17:27, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Smokey you dont have to do a transcript of the game. Possibly the Cutscenes, but there really isnt any need for a full transcript, it seems like a little bit too much. Smish34 17:44, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

What kind of data do you have? Is it small and neat - can it fit on the character pages theselves? Or is it a crapton of info (IE: L4D Wiki)? Chaos ian7 19:42, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * In fact it would be awesome to have all dialogues transcribed. It would be sweet to add them as captions to the playthrough since it's in Russian. 19:04, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * If you had all the speech throughout the game on one page IT WOULD be cluttered as hell. There honestly is no reason to have every little line of dialogue. You cant have the Walkthrough on another page saying it would clutter it, then want the transcript on the same page. There really is no point at all;have the loading screen dialogue, and put that in the trivia. Dont make a thrird page for the audio Smish34 20:35, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * http://www.youtube.com/t/annotations_about
 * http://www.youtube.com/t/captions_about
 * 21:14, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * We were not taling about the video. Smokey wanted to do it for the Wikia. Yeah of course do it to the video. You dont need to run that through us. Smish34 21:39, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well after seeing both sides of the argument I can't really say what we should do. Smish, it would be quite handy to have a set of transcribed dialogue especially if we ever plan to on put quotes at the beginning of most pages, however Smokey, as Smish noted making three pages for one level is quite over-extensive. I think though that if we were to do dialogue through the videowalkthroughs that would be quite handy. As another note I looked at some other wikis to see what they did, and being a fan of Left 4 Dead (and of the wiki itself) I found this page. It's not exactly like what we're doing (it's a lot longer for one thing) but you guys might want to look to see if this is the kind of thing we want. Chaos ian7 21:57, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * It was only a suggestion. But it does seem like a lot of work so I was doubtful towards the idea. I just saw something like it at the CoD wiki. God there are some dedicated editors there. Smokey McPott 22:24, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Now i dont have the PC version of the game (Yet, once i get a new laptop i will get it), but can you go into the game files and pull the dialogue? If so, you could at least post the dialogue track into the page, as an embedded file. Just a suggestion. Smish34 22:47, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, no. They're pretty locked- about as much as any other game. You couldn't go into Deus Ex and do that per say. Chaos ian7 23:54, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, i figured you could since ongames like L4D theyhave extacted all the dialogue files Smish34 00:02, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * I can get all the sound files if you need them. I just need to download sounds.us.vfs0 if you need them in english. 00:08, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * How do you do that? Chaos ian7 00:16, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a family secret. But seriously, unpacking is not hard. 09:19, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, I've got the files. I can make videos for every character. 10:09, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Or just upload them here on respective character sub pages. 17:33, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, i figured you could since ongames like L4D theyhave extacted all the dialogue files Smish34 00:02, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * I can get all the sound files if you need them. I just need to download sounds.us.vfs0 if you need them in english. 00:08, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * How do you do that? Chaos ian7 00:16, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a family secret. But seriously, unpacking is not hard. 09:19, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, I've got the files. I can make videos for every character. 10:09, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Or just upload them here on respective character sub pages. 17:33, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * All voices are recorded in .ogg format and in total take up 103 mb of space. There is some fancy audio player on the wiki, but I don't think I know how to use it. 20:53, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahh I understand now. Chaos ian7 21:21, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

So what should be done? Should I upload the files and create pages with character dialogue or should we scrap the idea? 01:31, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Talk Page. You can add a note in the trivia like "Sound files for "X" can be found here (link to talk)"

The D6 page and other Locations
Im gonna change up the D6 Page. At the moment it is just a Location page. I want to make it into two pages. One the location that includes a small overview of all areas of D6, and thebackground info, and then im gonna make a page concerning jkust the mission. As the page doesnt really provide much info on the mission and what the goal is. Also why is there a D6 Category? it seems quite unnesicary. I might dlelte that page and put the info as the location page.

Then i think we need pages for all the Locations and station seen in the Metro. I dont mean have a page for Market, then Dead City 1, then dead city 2. I mean have a page called 'Market Station (Location)'. It boosts the page number (To be honest it does seem kinda low) and gives the Location and Level differences. That way on one page we dont need all the background info as it would be on the Location page. That way we can include who is at the location. Vendors etc, side missions (e.g.Riga: Pay the homeless) i'll only start untill you have replied Smish34 23:49, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Dude, go ahead, all those idea are awesome! Again, I'm looking for worthwhile work so just get a hold of me if you need any help at all in the slightest. Chaos ian7 00:21, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ok cool. Im starting with Exhibition, then im gonna do D6 Smish34 00:42, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Transcript 2
Check this out: http://metro2033.wikia.com/wiki/Artyom/quotes 19:22, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

I can't hear them, get an error box, but they're nicely set up. Did you actually upload them? Chaos ian7 00:13, August 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_help 07:38, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

I've finished the page of the quotes and i'm currently cleaning them up. God it was annoying going from each level to the next whilst typing it down from the TV screen. Done now though, also I saw that Dead City 2 and Ethereal don't have a narrated part so I left those out of the page Smokey McPott 04:46, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Man that looks really nice. I still wish I could get Komodo's audio bites up and working but for the time being this is great. Chaos ian7 05:00, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I was jus hoping no one had edited the page whilst I was doing it because I took my around an hour and a bit and If some one had edited it whilst i was I'd have lost all that hard work. Smokey McPott 05:10, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I've have the same worry sometimes. But if you're ever scared about that I recommend copying the data in source mode before you publish. Chaos ian7 02:33, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Character infobox
Here is an updated character infobox with a tutorial included. The links are now readable and it looks a bit better overall. I didn't update all character pages in case you'll be updating the infobox first. Have fun editing. 15:14, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hey yea, it looks really great! I just changed the 'eeds quotes' to 'needs notible quotes' to not raise confusion for some people who would assume that it meens 'needs complete transcript'. I'll get to finish implimenting it right away. Chaos ian7 00:51, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

one problem I've identified is that when users put in their quotes, it make it into a normal wiki page. We need to find a way so that when quote pages are made for users on the wiki that it is a page that won't come up in the search bar. Other wise we'll have a plague of personal quote pages that will spam the search bar.Smokey McPott 07:19, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Additional Rights for Komodo Saurian
Hey Ian, I believe that Komodo has proved himself to be a valuable asset to the wiki. I think its a good idea to give him sysop status and rollback user rights. I was hoping to bring this up while Smish was still here but it slipped my mind. but anyway tell me what you think as He's got my vote for being a Sysop and such.

Hope to here from you.

Smokey Smokey McPott 15:03, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

metro wiki ru
There is a Russian Metro wiki community [''' Any link with dot ru is apparently blocked by the spam filter. Way to be racist, wikia''' ]. Can we link them on our front page? 18:34, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Metro 2033 walkthrough
I got my hands on a proper english dub, so I decided to do a diametrically different walkthrough of the game to partner up with an existing one. As in "everything dies", instead of skulking in the corners. 22:33, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Chaos ian7 22:44, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Save Metro wikia from arogant douchbag.
Greatingz :) iv notice the big problem about this wikia metro. And it admins like neo nazi douch mcpott. Apperently he has grown alot of jealousy about me starting a new page that is about to expand, and describe differant persons civilians in metro 2033( i made this becouse i know russian, and the translate in metro 2033 isnt really 100% truth) not only that. People like yourself or fans of metro can edit aswell, thats for sure)). it is WIKIA every new thing is interested for people, as long as it stays with the topic of the genra :) before i even started edeting here, iv noticet mostly this metro wikia was standing in one place. But as soon as i started to edit few fotos and correct info, some of you became eather lost or jealouse. You dont like me beeing here thats ok :) wikia metro is not a whole world for me, besides im mainly at stalker wikia. (im a THQ fan love there games, in my opinion better then Modern warfare) im just here to spice things up of the courner of my eye thats it :) love to uppload fotos. Metro 2033 is great game, but if i miss out something in the info. Thank you for correcting it, becouse thats what a non ignorant person does.

Cheers and peace out dude :)

Scarecrow, you obviously have got the wrong idea. I'm not jealous of you, nor am I saying your project is not valid, I'm simply pointing out that the page you made is currently under review to see if it is a worthwhile page or not. We don't need multiple, pointless pages on the wiki, it just spams up the place. Obviously you've worked yourself into a bit of a state so I've blocked you for a week so you an calm down a bit. Looking after the wiki is not arrogance, I'm simply doing my part as an admin to make sure that this wiki stays on track. I'm not trying to troll you nor am I trying to be a jerk. Smokey McPott 12:25, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Hold on everyone, time to take a step back and do what humans do worst, evaluate a situation. Scarecrow, you're work is fine on the wiki, if a litte incorrect on the details (social-cultural diferences often translate awkwardly). As far as I can tell noone resents your edits and contribuitons to the community and wiki. That being said however, there is an unmentioned quality standard on the wiki for grammar, article presentation, and speculation / theories / trivia. I do not mind doing matinence jobs, in fact it keeps my lazy ass working, but some things need to be kept in mind. As much as it may distress you Smokey is a firend and as you may be able to see, he has the best interests of the wiki in mind. That being said Smokey, banning someone who has not actually comitted a solid offence isn't quite eithical. Now that I've refered to the talk pages, noticed that the ban has been removed, and the two of you have reached mediation I have to say I'm glad that you both handled the situation respectibly without me. So... no problems then? Chaos ian7 18:36, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

sorry to butt in on an old conversation, but scarecr0w you dont seem to back up any of his claims, and if you do, well i honestly cant understand it. If you know russian i'm guessing you are russian, and dont know english too well because,no offense, but your spelling and grammer is atrocious. Also dont acuse Smokey of being a Neo Nazi. His page shows the Nazi's of the game and has a metro nazi theme, but that does not mean he himself is a Neo Nazi. Also "standing in one place untill you joined",i dont see you editing regularly, infact i am a very regular user, and have been around on this wikia almost since its beginning, and i have seen you maybe once or twice, also the english translation of the book and game has about an average of 2% wrong and only because of some translation issues or grammar issues. And you should really speak to people nicely. I've already seen that you have been banned from Lostpedia due to vulgarity, and i saw the evidence first hand. If you do keep it up i will personally bann you. this will be posted on your talk page as well so you dont miss it Smish34 00:05, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, after all this time I just realised that my Avi pic in my character box was a Nazi. But anyway, Chaos and Smish, it's alright we've sorted it out. The page that the conflict was started over was is currently under review about being deleted, and as such when a page is the deletion template has to stay on it untill a decision is made, So it allows for people to fix the page up to prevent it from been deleted. (Atleast thats how it goes on many other wiki's I'm on). But it's alright, we had a compromise and we've agreed that he has a couple of days to get the article upto par and make it show its purpose, and if it's not up to standard or doesn't show a point in being there then it will be deleted. Smokey McPott 06:38, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

So I see. This is perfectly aceptable. Chaos ian7 06:44, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Mutant infobox
[ LINK ] 12:49, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Re: Mutant infobox
Done. 18:49, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Walkthrough again
Just a suggestion: Since we are going to have (I hope we will) video walkthroughs for M2033, both Stealth and Action, we should rewrite the actual text walkthrough to contain only, for instance, locations / number / equipment of enemies and list staches with weapons and ammunition or something like that. I'm not interested in reading poorly written walls of text to begin with (And wiki visitors, the guys we do all this shit for, are probably not interested in reading B.S. either) plus we have an actual video as an alternative.

I'm going for quality of the material in those walkthroughs, re-recording each chapter untill it looks nice enough to me, so we need to either replace the babbling with something interesting and non-obvious or remove it altogether (Or make it into a good read, but I doubt any of us have the proper skill to do it). 07:39, September 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're quite right in the thinking to make the walkthroughs more engaging and less preachy, however - have you looked up a walkthrough before? It's practically a requirement for them to law out obvious details. I will, however, review a few ones to see what can be done, even if it means re-writing them into more factual pieces. Chaos ian7 17:23, September 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yaknow, on further consideration A LOT of the written work is no good. Maybe we should consider a liberal erasure of the written work and rely on the exellent videos. Chaos ian7 17:46, September 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, I've seen some and this one was awesome back in the day: http://www.gamefan.ru/residentevil/re4/sol.php 18:28, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thats a lot more amazing than the ones you see on GameFAQs or whatever. Chaos ian7 00:24, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Wiki YT channel
Do we have one? 16:19, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

No, not really; I just used mine for the soundtrack thing and you used yours (I imagine) for the walkthoughs. I guess we could set one up. Chaos ian7 19:02, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Front page
Does this look better now? 10:29, September 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Quite a bit better. Only one thing that needs to be changed, which I can do myself. In the Inside the Metro Universe tab, I think Metro 2033 and Metro Last Light should be on the same line below the Metro Series. That way they look like they're on par with eachother. Chaos ian7 14:47, September 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Maybe they just need separate columns? M2033 levels, weapons, etc. LL levels, weapons, etc. 15:25, September 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think the plan is to integrate all the levels and whatnot of the first game and of Last Light in the category. At keast, this is what I assumed. Chaos ian7 20:31, September 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah? People will think that items in each column corresponds to the game at the top of it and only to it. 20:41, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just put a in there then. I'll see how it looks. Chaos ian7 20:56, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * How about we just exclude the M2033 and M2034 from the list, hmm? We already have them on the left column. 21:21, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * That sounds good enough for me. I tried putting HRs in there but it looked like hell. Would you kindly - do... that thing we were talking about...? Chaos ian7 21:23, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Dah, Atlas :V 21:24, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Good stuff. You have earned yourself, a cookie, eat it in good health my friend. Chaos ian7 00:29, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Grenades
How about we merge Grenades and Sticky Grenades articles? 11:14, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

I'm fine with mergeing pages, but in this case, what would be the point? Neither page is substantially short, and in the game they're seperate items. Chaos ian7 15:37, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Chaos on this, but I do reckon each of the pages need an overhaul as they look like they a copy and pasted from eiter one and just slightly altered, we need better info on them and some more pics.Smokey McPott 15:41, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I've got plans for those pages i've been meaning to do, so I'll work on them in the morning as its about 2am here and I've been out drinking. So I'm a lil tipsy, but I'll get to work on them in a few hours (I.E 7-8 hours from now probably)Smokey McPott 15:48, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough. We can hold off untill whenever. Chaos ian7 15:50, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Polls
Hey, I Just added a Poll to the main page. When do you think we should update them? (I.e Weekly, every fortnight?) also do you think its a good idea that we have polls, Might just give us an idea on how many people visit here.Smokey McPott 15:15, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * I thing the answer is "Not untill we make them look less eye raping". 15:30, September 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well then, Komodo are you able to change the color scheme of them? as I only used the basic sceme for it. Also Chaos, I think we should leave it up for longer than week, or maybe untill we reach a certain number of votesSmokey McPott 15:38, September 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * I can look into fixing them, sure, but... There is a preview button, you can check out if something looks ugly before you post it on the frontpage for all to see. And if it actually does, you can try fix it before pressing Publish. Just for the future reference: Can we please discuss something first before blindly implementing it into the wiki? 18:03, September 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * [Copypasted from Smokey's Re:Poll] Not a bad idea. I change all the featured stuff every friday (saturday if I'm late, sunday if I'm particularly lazy), so we can update the polls around that time if you think. Chaos ian7 15:33, September 18, 2011 (UTC) [End Copypaste] And what eye rape are we talking about? It doesn't look that bad. Chaos ian7 15:44, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Arguement
Could you please help Smish and me settle an arguement. 07:41, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Suggestions for Videos
If anyone has anything coll and Metro related. Let me know., I'm looking for stuff for the front page roatation. Chaos ian7 05:05, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

5.45x39mm
How about we merge the dirty and gold ammo articles? I don't think we need both, they are a tad too short and there is not much we can add. 23:56, September 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Make it so, number one! Chaos ian7 01:29, September 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Done, merged the articles and placed a redirect on the MGR page. 10:34, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds alright to me. 3 pages on the same subject is a little overkill. Chaos ian7 16:01, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Merging
http://metro2033.wikia.com/wiki/Railcar

http://metro2033.wikia.com/wiki/Hand_Cart

http://metro2033.wikia.com/wiki/Railbike

Eh?

17:56, September 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * I definately agree on merging these pages. Call it 'Metro Transportation' or something. Smokey McPott [  talk  ] 17:36, September 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Pimp my cart. Moscow subway edition. 17:56, September 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, I'll take the spinners, a custom paint job, the flame stickers, beverage holders and of course, a DShK Machinegun. Smokey McPott [  talk  ] 18:10, September 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hosted by a Russian Xibit.
 * There really is no point not doing it, and there is no point doing it. Might as well leave it as seperate pages, keeps the Page count up and they are seperate things. Smish34 20:28, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd disagree Smish. The Vehicles Category is a little lacking in content and the main content of which could easily be assembled into one page. If we would keep them seperate, I'd recommend more content be added to them; content, which I can't seem to come up with. Chaos ian7 20:49, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Let's make this thing a topic of the next week poll then. 21:23, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. The first management one is almost done. Chaos ian7 21:27, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Header font


Care to share? 00:47, October 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ahh, it's from an awesome website I found whilst looking for writing assets. Chaos ian7 03:07, October 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. 17:57, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * No problems. Chaos ian7 22:58, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Renaming
What do you think about renaming http://metro2033.wikia.com/wiki/Captain_Krasnov to just Krasnov? None of the other characters have titles or ranks in the names of the respective pages. 13:30, October 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't know... doesn't he introduce himself as Captin Krasnov? and besides, how many people even have defined ranks? I think if I were to look him up on the wiki I'd type his name up in the search as Captin Krasnov (remembering the dialogue). Chaos ian7 14:41, October 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Then we need Commander Maxim Komarov instead of just Maxim Komarov too :v 16:34, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Does Maxim refer to himself as Commander Maxim Kamarov?, I honestly don't recall. [He does, I just played the level again.] Just calling someone by their last name is a little odd too, can you think of a character who's surname is their identified name? If so, we probably should change it. Chaos ian7 22:41, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * >>>can you think of a character who's surname is their identified name?
 * Miller. Ulman. 07:47, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Fair enough I guess. I'll make it so. Chaos ian7 18:28, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

RE: More renaming
Do we really need to use a slang name here http://metro2033.wikia.com/wiki/Seryoga ? It should be Sergei. 20:52, October 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * In honesty I had no idea the name was diminutive, or slang. I just listened to what Sasha's mom refers him to as, and figured out how to spell it. Would Sergei be more apropriate? Chaos ian7 23:09, October 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * In Russian dub she uses a more kind version "Seryozha". But regardless, the name should be Sergei, not the informal version of it. 00:26, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I guess. Chaos ian7 00:57, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Saiga
Do you think it'd be a good idea to put in some background information on the new Automatic Shotgun (Saiga-12)? Like the Kalash, it is an actual gun, and the article could benefit significantly from it. Redsoxusa09 00:16, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, why not. You could have an Overview section mentioning the real guns and have information on that. Chaos ian7 01:12, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

For the clear template, I have no idea. I'm not very experienced with that sort of editing, so thanks for fixing the issue though. Redsoxusa09 00:37, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hey no problem. If you have trouble editing don't forget that there is a tutorial, if you're into that kinda thing. Otherwise it's just taking time, gaining experience, and learning all the ultra unexplaned stuff of Wikia (IE: Clear templates). Either way, it doesn't really matter, you do a good job editing either way. Chaos ian7 01:01, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll probably check out the tutorial. I gotta get prepared for the mass creating and editing of Last Light articles upon its release! Redsoxusa09 01:48, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Project
I was skeptical about this too, especially since I have a pretty short attention span :)

Anyway, I'll try to finish the project as soon as possible and then I'll probably be shifting my attention to the Elder Scrolls Wiki -- since Skyrim is right around the corner. But I'll be checking in every once in a while, and I'll probably be a bit more active when Last Light comes out.

Cheers --Anon</tt>(Talk)</tt> 21:28, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan. = ) Chaos ian7 22:02, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Heads Up
hey, for some reason on Miller's character template, where it says "Date of Birth", the of is way off. I would fix it, but I don't want to mess things up any more, so I thought I'd let you know. Redsoxusa09 23:27, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not a template expert, that'd probably be Komodo, but i'll totally try my best. Chaos ian7 02:19, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sucessfully failed to do anything. If you take a look the "date of" things effects both Boris and Artyom as well. So it's a template problem, not a page problem. I'll let Komodo know, maybe he can think of a fix. Chaos ian7 02:27, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

New Achievement Template (WIP)
Hey,

I've been working on a thing for the achievement pages and just thought I'd give you a heads up on it. So far this template is a work in progress so no one should add it to the pages yet. I'm currently trying to get it to look more 'Metro Friendly' for the color scheme. Any suggestions? Smokey McPott [  talk  ] 02:29, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

You could make the description box a bit bigger but otherwise, it's looking reall cool. Looks to me like you've found a good way to sort some content on the achievement pages. Keep up the good work. Chaos ian7 02:47, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Another thing with it, I'm wondering about getting some larger Achievement Pic to put in it, all that empty space seems to be a bit of an eyesore, It's not totally bothering, but it just might be something to ruminate about. Smokey McPott [  talk  ] 02:54, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

The biggest images would probably be found on Steam (of which they are from). If you find bigger ones of higher quality, then thats great. Chaos ian7 03:18, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Finally done with all the Achievement pages. Smokey McPott [  talk  ] 13:44, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Woew! Looks great, but do you think you could switch up the border a bit, maybe with a different shade of Red? Blue is a little misplaced on the wiki. Chaos ian7 19:04, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Done. (I Was going to do it last night, but I finished my editing at around 1am so I decided to go to bed). Smokey McPott [  talk  ] 04:42, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

railbike
hate to be a bother, but the rail bike has it's own article, but is also in the railcar article, which do you think should be deleted? Redsoxusa09 03:14, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'll make it a redirect then, thanks for pointing that out. Chaos ian7 03:17, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Didn't we sort this problem out a while ago? Either keep them seperate or merge them into one 'Vehicle' page. Smokey McPott [  talk  ] 03:20, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

They are, it's Railcar. Chaos ian7 03:43, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Question from Germany
Hi Ian, I'm the administrattor from the german Metro wiki. I wanted to ask whether we may use the pictures from your Wiki. Our Wiki stands still at the beginning of his career and we need the pictures to make it clear. Thanks for your time and sorry for my bad english.-Fenris_Chiefi,26.10.2011


 * Greetings! You may need to ask the other 3 admins, but I'm totally fine with other people using our images. Good luck to ya! Chaos ian7 15:01, October 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's totally cool, if you ask me. Feel free to use the videos as well. 15:13, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

NOOOOOO, They can get their own pictures!!!!!!!! XD hahaha jokes, By all means they can use our content. Increase the knowledge of Metro fans everywhere. Smokey McPott [  talk  ] 22:22, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

I Guess so, if its part of the "wikia network" then there is no need to ask since im pretty sure the copyright/useage or whatever is allowed across the network. If not im still alright with it doesnt bother me. [Smish34]


 * Well, sound like the affirmative. Chaos ian7 22:46, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

random
Could you check the last mutants edit, it was a big change and i prefer the older version. Also, the same contributor added an "In The Book" section for biomass, I don't know what you want to do about that, as the information he added is already in the trivia. I also didn't like his lurker edit. Redsoxusa09 13:42, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Looks like smokey already did some damage control, but most of the edits weren't that bad at all to be honest. Chaos ian7 14:49, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

I was just saying my preference, his edit was fine, but i preferred the older one, and wanted your opinion on the matter. As for the lurkers, what he put in was mere speculation. But the rest of his edits were very helpful, especially about the novel, I just wanted to bring to attention those specific articles. Redsoxusa09 22:23, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Oh I see, thank for for doing so then. Chaos ian7 22:33, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Hey there Chaos, Wszemir did a really great job of adding a synopsis of Metro 2034, do you think we can remove the "Expansion" template? I also think the "Cleanup" template for Black Station should be removed. Just my two cents. Redsoxusa09 03:46, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Done and done. = ) Chaos ian7 04:01, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about asking you about all of this stuff, I just want to confirm with the admins that it's okay to delete such a major thing, so thanks! Redsoxusa09 04:03, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

No problems. You've got good judgement, if something is editied to be satistfactory, you can do whatever you want. Chaos ian7 04:24, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

I appreciate the trust! Cheers. Redsoxusa09 04:26, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Wikia Rescourses?
I was wondering is wikia rescourses really that important? i mean what is it for this wikia to care about every bytes that is on here? what is so valuble? your not getting payd for it u sertanly dont pay for it so why do people care about these rescourses?. I think its all bull talk.Scare Cr0w 04:25, November 5, 2011 (UTC)Scare Cr0w

I'm not quite sure what your talking about. If you mean the resources such as photos or sound bytes then, yesh there's no point in holding onto them since they're bits of a copyrighted game, which anyone could have taken. However, we have taken the time and effort to take or find them ourselves, so it's a little annoying to find them on other websites, but I don't really think anyone cares that much. The WIki is open to all viewers and editors after all. Chaos ian7 04:43, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

For example ''uploaded the same file with changed background as NEW file. this wastes wikia resources ''is that just a bull talk or? about resources... everything on wikia is stored on some server's hard drive which is a resource. if you consider one 100 kB image its nothing but even if, only once a week, only 10 users add only 1 unneeded image on every separate wikia service (which are hard to count but lets assume 1000) that gives you "only": 100 kB * 10 images * 52 weeks * 1000 wikias = 52 000 000 kB = ~49.6 GB of additional useless data per year. the reality would give, i bet, a much bigger number since i assumed quite low starting numbers and just for images. therefore, apart from ecology and all but someone has to buy extra storage to contain evergrowing wikias and the same someone has to pay the electrical bills (which are astronomic for huge servers like wikia) as well as pay for conservation like AC etc. conclucion: the more resources we waste the sooner wikia would need a dontaion or, god forbid, the sooner it will be shut down or have other serious maintenance problems.

Now in my personal opinion and i think you also agreed that NO ONE really cares about these bytes since wikia is free to edeting and not so picky about there usesrs unless there is some troll who spams and is a waste of wikia space, thanks for the infro btw.

Scare Cr0w 12:27, November 5, 2011 (UTC)Scare Cr0w

You certanly do bring up a point. We do have a lot of waste-space images which we could clear out. I might make that a project in the near future. Chaos ian7 22:03, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

As I do agree that there are alot of spam images over the wikia networks, the Wikia servers already hae a steady income which is only getting bigger and bigger. How do they get the money from a free service you ask? Simple, see all those annoying ads a the top of the screen and elsewhere, they make all there money from companies wanting their ads on the wikia, so in all honesty there isn't a money shortage for the wikia providers. Smokey McPott [  talk  ] 00:40, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Very true, but as such it's not so 'ecological' or effieicient, so to say. Chaos ian7 04:04, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

We have more images than pages. A Lot of them are very useful and needed for the pages, but if we were to go back, we would probably find at least two or three different versions of one image, just uploaded by different people. Once i get my new laptop, i would gladley start to sort out (and name) the images we have. Smish34 11:43, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Every image has some use, be it a user page, or an article's gallery. Check out The Vault, they probably have hundreds of images they don't use, that doesn't mean they sift through the 17,000+ images they have and delete the few ones they don't need. Going through the pictures would be a complete waste of time, in my opinion. Redsoxusa09 16:52, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

It's not like it's going to be an all-consuming time wasting project to find out if an image is being used or not. What either Smish or myself would likely do is find the unused images that are not present in ANY article and either delete them or incorperate them into the wiki. Chaos ian7 17:04, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

In no way am i gonna delete someones avatar or a character image. But i will delete duplicate images. For example, i imagine there are at least 5 or 6 different uploads of the Metro 2033 cover. Smish34 20:37, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

And I'd love to help with that, I just wanted to point out that most of the images probably have some importance. Redsoxusa09 20:39, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Achievement Title
Hey there, the Sticks Like A Bur achievement should actually just have the "Sticks" capitalized, and the rest in lower case, so "Sticks like a bur". It's the same thing with If It's Hostile, You Kill It, Nosalis HunterOld School, Fire in the Hole, and Quick Witted, Sources: my xbox, and this. A minor thing, really, but a thing nonetheless. If you want the articles to have everything capitalized, then disregard this. Redsoxusa09 04:50, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Generally capitalization, such as that in titles of movies, or really anything, you Capitalize every key word. On this wiki we usually capitalize every word, so, go figure. Chaos ian7 05:40, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Well, yes, I know that, it's just some achievements, such as Metro dweller, aren't capitalized. So, should we capitalize the rest at least? How do you rename articles? Redsoxusa09 05:59, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

You'd need to be a Mod/Admin. Smish34 08:10, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, then never mind. Redsoxusa09 14:18, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Then that's stuff to fix. Chaos ian7 23:44, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

How so? Redsoxusa09 01:28, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

This probably means I've gotta fix the template now, don't I. Smokey McPott  [  talk  ] 01:35, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

If fixing it isn't too complex, I'd love to help you with it Smokey Redsoxusa09 02:08, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

I already did it; thinking ahead this time. ; ) Chaos ian7 03:22, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Gah! Back to grammar/minor plot errors until a new problem arises... Redsoxusa09 03:24, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Community
Hey Ian, Last Light is a long ways off but in the near future I think the Wiki should have some sort of Rules & Guidelines for editing and such, under the Community portal on the main page. I can write one up if you want, or if you want someone else to, that's perfectly fine. Redsoxusa09 02:39, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

We do have Metro 2033 Wiki:Policy which more-or-less worksin that respect. You can check that out and edit it if you want. Chaos ian7

Ahh, I never saw that. Is there a way you can put it under the Community section of the main page? I don't think anyone will be searching for that when they join the wiki. Redsoxusa09 20:59, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

It's on the community page. I'm not sure if it diserves a bigger spotlight. Chaos ian7 07:58, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Requesting Name Change
Just putting this out there. I might be offline for a few days, as I'm requesting a new username. Chaos ian7 01:56, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

I am too, I'm waiting for an optimal time so I don't lose my progress in the daily counter. See you soon. Redsoxusa09 03:20, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Request
Hey Ian, Teddy Picker here (aka Redsoxusa09), I'm just here asking for some upgrades in terms of responsibility, I guess. I've been with the wiki for almost three months now, have had good edits, and I think I'd be a great compliment to the Metro Wiki team. I plan on being here well past Last Light's release, and I look forward to your reply, be it a rejection, or otherwise. Mull it over with the other admins, I suppose. Thanks :) Teddy Picker 01:27, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well when you say it like that... ; ) You've certanly contributed to the content and community of this wiki so I think it'd be no problem to grant you such additional rights. You have my endorsement but I'll ask the other admins later tonight on their opinion as well. Chaosian 02:51, November 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Great, thanks a lot :) Teddy Picker 03:18, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

As much as I would say yes as you are a good editor here, the only thing holding me back on giving the green light is that we've already got a substantial amount of Admins/Sysops. As this isn't a huge wiki, 4 active admins are enough (IMHO), Maybe further down the track when the activity here picks up (i.e Last Light will spark up interest in the wiki). But for now I think were good, don't take this personaly as I do like you, My descisions aren't based on liking or not liking someone. Although I would hope to think that your on the top of the candidate list for when the time comes for appointing new Admins/Sysops. Smokey McPott [  talk  ] 03:28, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

The thought had crossed my mind, but really what is the problem if we have so many high ranking people that want to help out? If that's not sufficent perhaps it is a tiered adminship we're looking for. Chaosian 03:33, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * I can see what you mean, and I could agree with it. I look forward to when the activity starts picking up, I suppose. Teddy Picker 03:30, November 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's what I had thought, it's not really a ranking thing but more of a "what you can do" thing, but I'm leaving it to you guys. Teddy Picker 03:34, November 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just add him and stop enlisting after that. 22:23, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Heh, this is a little rapid. Does anyone want to try the Chat function?Chaosian 03:37, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm all for it! Teddy Picker 03:38, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Im with Komodo on this one. Your obviously worthy of it, but almost all of our active users are admins. The ratio is a little off, i am happy for you to have some slight admin powers, you can allways be allowed to use the rollback function if thats allright with the other guys. Smish34 09:11, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm obviously not suggesting that anyone in our group is acting as such, but we must be warry of the ego in comitment. It's cool being part of something, and being an adminstrator of a wiki is in itself pretty cool, so it's understandable to want to limit the number of people in our group of adminstrators. But really, keeping ourselves special accomplishes nothing if there are more people qualified to be among us. So yeah, I am in favor of administration and rollback, but obviously not bureacracy. Sound good? Chaosian
 * Thanks Smish (seriously, no sarcasm intended). Although I do believe the ratio will balance out when THQ begins it's PR blitz, I totally see what you mean. So what's the verdict? Teddy Picker 22:16, November 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * You've pretty much summed my thoughts and wants, so as long as the other admins are fine with it, I would be honored to administrate on this fine wiki. Teddy Picker 23:54, November 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * I Took the liberty of changing your rights slightly (i doubt anyone minds at this point) You do have the option of rolling back an edit. So if ever you came across some "fresh" vandalism, you can simply go onto the 'edit' dropdown, and select Rollback, and you can change the previous edit into the original state. Its quite useful since it cuts down on the manual edit time Smish34 01:01, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well, seeing as noone objects then...Chaosian 06:14, November 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, I appreciate it. Teddy Picker 01:03, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

I've granted you the rights of adminstration as well Teddy as to allow you more efficient and capable editing and cleanup. Congrats sir! Chaosian 06:19, November 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Heh, "Teddy", good one! Thank you very much, I will fulfill my responsibilities to the best of my ability! So, no ceremony? Just kidding. Teddy Picker 06:22, November 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I suppose we could perform an "Initiation Ceremony" that has recently come to light. Drench yourself kerosene and set youself alight, If you don't burn then your Admin material, of you do.... Well, you only have yourself to blame. Was that the ceremony you had in mind? =) Smokey McPott  [  talk  ] 08:01, November 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I was thinking something more Star Wars-esque, but that sounds waaaay more fun. Good pun, "an Initiation Ceremony that has come to light" hehe Teddy Picker 08:04, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving Talk Pages
Hey, just a suggestion here, I see your talk page is quite long. Ever thought of making a talk page archive for yourself? I did that for my page, like after a while when it gets packed I'll make an archive page and a link to it. Just so you free up some space and still maintain the abillity to look back at previous conversations. Smokey McPott [  talk  ] 03:43, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Figured I'd do it every 75 subsections but 50 is probably enough. I'll do that archiving soon. Chaosian 03:51, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

On another note, chat? Chaosian 03:51, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

I can't, my comp craps itself when ever I try to get on the chat. Sorry mate. Smokey McPott [  talk  ] 09:58, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough. Chaosian 04:03, November 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * What's the point in archiving talk pages anyway? Nobody will look throught them anyway. 12:04, November 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, me personally, I like to do it so I can look back at previous convo's, Plus if theres interesting info on it you can go back and find it (IE links, suggestions). I do it cause I'm hell forgetful. Smokey McPott  [  talk  ] 13:39, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Weapon Smith
Do you think adding the Weapon Smith achievement to a "Related Achievements" page on all the weapon pages would be ok? Teddy Picker 20:55, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Sure thing. Chaosian 23:42, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

I leave to take a Christmas photo, and you've already gotten it done! Darn. Teddy Picker 01:32, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Muhahaha Chaosian 02:43, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Forward: Dead City
I asked Smish this, thought I'd get some other's opinions: Hey Smish, what do you think of combining the Dead City level and walkthrough pages? The levels aren't really named "Dead City 1" and "Dead City 2", and the level articles would benefit significantly. Also, when Komodo and I finally crack "The Great Caper of the Ranger (Achievement)", I would only have to put the locations in one article. Yes, the levels are separated by a loading screen, but it is the same area, and they even share the same name. Teddy Picker 07:19, November 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * When loading a previous level from the start screen, they are in fact named Dead City 1 and Dead City 2, but I believe this is to not confuse people when they reload a level. When actually playing the level, on the loading screen, they're both named "Dead City". Teddy Picker 01:32, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Trailer Images
If you see anything interesting for the wiki in the video, give me the time and I'll take a screen shot, and if you give me the website I'll remove the black bars. Call within the next five minutes, and I'll DOUBLE the offer! Teddy Picker 07:10, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Machine gun, Y U SO FUCKING DISTURBING SLOWED DOWN! Other than that I think we're good, for now at least. Chaosian 07:16, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

I just turned the volume off, it was so annoying. Alright, I wonder if they're going to have a big reveal sometime soon. Teddy Picker 07:18, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Landmark Template
What do you think of this Landmark template? We all have something along the lines of a Landmarks section, so it would definitely be put to good use. Teddy Picker 20:42, November 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * A little excessive don't you think? I meen, with the time (to the second) and the article edited? I first started recording to see how rapid I edited; more or less, a motivation meter. Chaosian 23:34, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

I primarily use mine to show off... just kidding. I do agree the time and article edited is a bit excessive, but the landmark/date achieved could be used. I'll probably get around to completing it when we get more users who would hopefully be able to say, "hey, I got 100 edits, byatch". Teddy Picker 01:22, November 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * We may be over-estimating the popularity of this wiki but I guess it couldn't hurt to retain. Chaosian 03:08, November 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * With my newfound adminship, I recieved an email showing 5,700+ visitors to the Wiki during one week's time. That isn't much compared to other wikis, but it's still up there. Teddy Picker 03:11, November 30, 2011 (UTC)



Ghosts
I'm going ahead and renaming the Ghosts page to "Ghost", I mean Railcar isn't "Railcars", and Gasmask isn't "Gasmasks" Teddy Picker 03:49, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

We add parenthaseis to remove confusion with other things, or at least we SHOULD; someone went a little overboard in the past. Ghosts could be confused with Ghost (Level) so to be uniform with anomaly we should probably use Ghost (Enitity); however use Ghosts (Phenomenon) because A: Phenomenon fits it better, B: the article is more about the 'species' not an individual. See Dark Ones and the the Rangers. Chaosian 15:57, December 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I see, "Ghost" is already taken. Do you think we should leave it at "Ghosts", or "Ghost (Phenomena) or "Ghost (Entity)"? Teddy Picker 03:52, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

I shall make it so, good sir. Teddy Picker 22:28, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Member Expansion
Time for a Metro Wiki ad campaign! Alright, I mean we don't have many active members, so I'm registering the Metro 2033 Wiki name on Twitter. If you want to be able to log on, email me at [mailto:Redsoxusa09@gmail.com Redsoxusa09@gmail.com]. I'll forward this to the other admins as well, hopefully this will bring in some new users. - Teddy 03:49, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

I don't go onto Twitter but fair enough, sounds like a decent idea. Chaosian 07:47, December 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're fine, I'll handle it. Komodo brings up a good point: should we make a YouTube channel? Head to his talk page. - Teddy 15:27, December 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * MetroTweet1.pngg a Twitter has it's benefits :D <font color="#DAA520"> Teddy Picker 01:47, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * They have given me the same reply before (i think chaos has a screeshot somewhere in his talk page Smish34 02:42, December 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, it's good to confirm it anyways. = D Chaosian 06:02, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm hoping it's an early 2012 release date, have they come out with anything specific, or just "2012"? <font color="#DAA520"> Teddy Picker 07:04, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, right, "first to hear". I didn't know we are called IGN or Gamestop. 10:17, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I thought he may have been being a little facetious, but hell, at least he's acknowledging us. <font color="#DAA520">Teddy Picker 18:58, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * There is a big difference between keeping good publicity on Twitter and actually giving news to the wiki before others. 19:19, December 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I doubt he actually meens we'll get the first new info, that'd be pretty nuts. Chaosian 20:02, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ive asked either him or the metro officil twice. The first was for some screenshots or new info, and the other was for a shoutout, They did aknowledge both but only the shoutout for the wikia actually happened Smish34 23:07, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * What was the shoutout about? <font color="#DAA520">Teddy Picker 00:33, December 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Metrotwitter.jpg it. Chaosian 00:43, December 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Told ya. 09:34, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Request
Hi, I'm a Admin from the german Metro 2033 Wiki. I have a question. Can I use your banner in the left corner from the Mai? I would like link the english Metro Wiki on our Mainpage. Thanks. {C Jetzt trete ich den Mutanten in den Hintern (Vault 87 Be.wohner) 16:0, December 6, 2011 (UTC

{C Hey yeah, there's no problem at all with that. Do think we (that is, the English Metro Wiki) should link to your Wiki as well? Set up a little, WIki-community? Chaosian 22:20, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think this is a good idea. We can create a little wiki community. Can I put the english Metro Wiki under partnerships? At this moment, we have another partnership with a other german Metro site. Thanks. Vault 87 Dweller

Yeah sure. We (English 2033) already link to the Russian Metro Wiki site so why not? Chaosian 00:04, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Also, just ask if you need anything else. We're always happy to assist. Chaosian 00:04, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

That's great. All I need is the Banner from the Mainpage and that's not a problem. {C Vault 87 Dweller

Good stuff. Chaosian 00:17, December 7, 2011 (UTC

{C Good stuff ? Have you take a look at our site? At this moment, I'm the only user. I have edited over 170 articles. Vault 87 Dweller

Holy man, is there noone else there? Chaosian 00:47, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

No. The first Admin, I don't know what he does. The second Admin is at school and the driving school and has not much time for the Wiki. I hope, when I edit more articles and Metro Last Light is published, that we have more Users in the future.

Vault 87 Dweller 10:21, December 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * If you've got the time, maybe you could take some of the content in our articles and translate them into German? If that's cool with the other admins, of course. I mean, we are one big ol' community. - Teddy(Talk) 15:16, December 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Over 180 articles are from the english Metro 2033 Wiki. I translate them into german. At my first day in the german Wiki, the Wiki has 24 articles. Now the Wiki has 207 articles. But at this moment only one User.
 * Vault 87 Dweller 16:34, December 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Damn son. Well let us know if we can help you at all, it'd be our pleasure. Chaosian 20:26, December 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok. If I need help, I leave a message on your User page. Thanks
 * Vault 87 Dweller 10:55, December 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * I Dont know if it would be the same (redirection wise) but i know the Fallout Wiki has pages translated and the linked at the bottom of each article, now im not sure how google.de (?)works but what if you were to search, for example pavel metro 2033, would it come show the german translated page as a result if it were integrated into ours and translated Smish34 02:40, December 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * EDIT: Ive just had a search around, and if you go on the polish google site, then google fallout 3 wikia, it comes up as the (now-former) Vault page for fallout 3, just translated still as the same content etc. Now Vault 87 and the rest of you guys would have to be ok with it, but why dont we just have the translated german wikia hosted on our site, but as the german vrsion of it? Just a thought Smish34 02:46, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I try to follow your thought.
 * I can set a link on every page, that link to the english article. When you translated english articles with google translation into german, the grammar is not correct. You can't read the article with this wrong grammar. That's why I'm translated the sites into german. But we have also articles, that gives not in the english Metro Wiki. You can translated them into english.
 * Vault 87 Dweller 10:52, December 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * what i mean is that there is a little bit of code you can put into the articles that will link to the translated page (on the same wikia site) i just tried testing it out with miller, by creating a new page "de: Muller" (google translate, so it might be wrong) unfortuneately it wouldnt work properly kept giving me loop errors. Smish34 12:15, December 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * what i mean is that there is a little bit of code you can put into the articles that will link to the translated page (on the same wikia site) i just tried testing it out with miller, by creating a new page "de: Muller" (google translate, so it might be wrong) unfortuneately it wouldnt work properly kept giving me loop errors. Smish34 12:15, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * In the german Metro 2033, the Person Miller is named Miller too. Not Muller. At this moment, in our Metro Wiki the article Miller does not exist.
 * Vault 87 Dweller 12:19, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I believe it would be mutually beneficial to both sides. We would gain another committed and knowledgeable user, and you would have the benefit of other users as well, if you ever needed to know anything about Metro. Smish, how long do you think it would take to do all this? <font color="#DAA520">Teddy Picker 18:57, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Honestly no idea, i tried using the coding but it just wouldnt work properly, if we did get it to work full database translation could take ages, and even then we would need to copy over all of the templates, which are in english, i'll look into it a little bit more, but if we were to combine and all the pages would be translated then all redirects would be to this wikia, but onto the german pages. Smish34 23:04, December 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * We could ask for some help from Wikia? <font color="#DAA520">Teddy Picker 00:11, December 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Better yet, ask someone at the Vault. They did it, right? Chaosian 00:22, December 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * They all moved to the other website though, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask. Who wants the honors? <font color="#DAA520">Teddy Picker 00:25, December 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe you should do it Smish, you're pretty much the one who has previous knowledge. Chaosian 00:30, December 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well i asked on the wikia site, Jsopltra is still an active admin and hopefully he might know something or at least point me in the right direction Smish34 02:03, December 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * @ Smish34 Is that what you looking for?
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Interlanguage_links
 * Vault 87 Dweller 08:38, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Gospel of Artyom
A continuation of Artyom's story released as a part of the new book, I guess we'll need a separate page for this one.

09:23, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Knock knock. Did everyone spontaneously combusted? 22:03, December 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * I can't help, I'm not that good at Russian! But I do agree that there should be articles about them. <font color="#DAA520">Teddy Picker 22:21, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeap. I can do something on them, link to the front page and everything. I've been meening to start an expansion on the books, using adapted synopses I would find on the Russian Wikipedia. Chaosian 23:39, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Man, that's not going far. After some research I've sucessfully found that there is little to no information on any of these stories. At least, no information that can be understood and located. I guess it'll take some deticated research. Chaosian 00:11, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blah
What's up with the categories? Did I miss something? 07:11, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Apparently so.Chaosian 07:22, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Add my profile to the Creepy one then. 11:18, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lol. On a related note, I can toally see people abusing the creepy and stealth categories with Stalkers. Chaosian 17:19, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Can't we just block categories from editing? 22:10, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

What? And why would we want to? Chaosian 23:40, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Only mods/admins are allowed to edit those. No abuse. Yay and whatnot. 23:49, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Oh I see what you mean. I'm not sure if we can (or really should), unless you know where. Chaosian 01:23, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Click the arrow near "Edit", click "Protect". Apparently that's the way. 11:39, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

That's for protecting pages and articles (like how the main page is from anons). Is that for categories as well now? Chaosian 19:30, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Ehh? 22:16, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. I can't really see it working like that. That seems a bit for in depth than Wikia's HTML, maybe it will, I don't know. Eh, it might not even be worth the effort ank kind of silly greifing of the sort can be easily undone. Chaosian 04:52, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Right. 10:45, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blah №2
Good to know somebody proofreads what I blindly type. 23:57, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Haha, fair enough. Chaosian 00:56, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Interlanguage Links
When you will use the interlanguage links, you must propose this at the Wikia Community. I have done so for the german Metro Wiki and its functioned. Now I can link the german articles directly to the english articles.

Vault 87 Dweller 11:57, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Heads Up
The revolver shotguns option in the current poll actually says "revolver ghotguns", I dunno if you can fix it, but thought I'd let you know. <font color="#DAA520">Teddy Picker 23:09, December 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, you learn a new thing every day. Fixing that typo nullifies all the votes and resets them to zero. 00:54, December 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, and hell, let's start doing stuff when I go on vacation, eh? <font color="#DAA520">Teddy Picker 05:21, December 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeeeeaaaaaaaap. Chaosian 05:23, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Heads Up #2
Hey, just wanted to let you know that I blocked MegaEpicLPMetroDivision for a day. He repeatedly kept adding a walkthrough to the Prologue (Level) page, after repeatedly telling him not to via his talk page. Just wanted to let ya know. <font color="#DAA520">Teddy Picker 05:58, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I did the same before, what's the difference? 06:45, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I see. Well, he had warnings and it was justified so, good work. Chaosian 23:41, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Icon Size Issue.
Hey Chaos, just a thought. Do you think the new icons are a bit oversized? I was thinkng that we should scale them down to the same size as the previous ones. What are your thoughts on this? Smokey McPott [  talk  ] 13:55, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

I'll look into it. Chaosian 19:32, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Edit mania
Did I miss something? 01:51, January 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've been meening to rename all the pages that didn't need their specification tail. Why do we need "Ethereal (Level)" when just "Ethereal" will do. The whole point of "(level)" was to organize pages that were part of disambigation 'trees' but somehow it caught on and became the norm. I was fizing that last night with achievements and today with levels. Chaosian 01:59, January 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Right... 02:22, January 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Man of few words. Chaosian 02:34, January 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * So.... many... emails <font color="#DAA520">Teddy Picker 03:11, January 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Whoops. Lol, sorry about that, it's kinda how I edit. Chaosian 03:14, January 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * While we are at it:
 * - Unsubscribe from emails, use /wiki/Special:WikiActivity page instead.
 * - Metro: The Last Refuge, Metro: Last light,... Metro: Last slice of pizza?
 * 10:57, January 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * After around four months here, you honestly think I haven't noticed the little "Wiki Activity" button on the top right of the page? And I like emails because they go to my phone, so if someone edits a talk page or something I can just get on the computer, reply, and get off and go do something else. <font color="#DAA520">Teddy Picker 17:28, January 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Right... 19:39, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Blah #62151
Should we give http://metro2033.wikia.com/wiki/Dmitry_Glukhovsky an actual character infobox? 20:07, January 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree, but for uniformity's sake I'd like them on this guy's page, as well as this other guy (if we can find a picture of him). <font color="#DAA520">Teddy Picker 22:46, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see why not. Sounds like a decent idea. I'll get on it right after dinner.Chaosian 01:41, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oleg_gamov.jpg


 * Alright then. 03:38, January 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * I confirmed that this is indeed Oleg Gamov with one of the developers. 11:05, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Answer carefully
Do you still have Rich Text editor on? 07:11, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, pretty much, and my futuresight magical abilities tells me where this is going. I use both Source and Visual. Visual for the standard editing, and souce for rapid copy-paste work and more in-depth HTML editing, kinda like how the settings were intended to be used.Chaosian 08:18, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

You just recieved a sign from wikia's digital deities while editing the D6 page. 08:46, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

I dunno. With the combine effort of HTML and visual I couldn't (and still haven't) been able to surmize as to why that page (and pretty much only that page) doesn't hold it's justification especially after images. Chaosian 09:39, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Because your damn editor places the text on the same line as the [image markup]. Or worse: Right in the middle of the sentence. 10:41, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

User Edits
As a rule of thumb I always check differences between pages, and it seems you have an error in your Edit Count. It goes ....4,600 4,700 4,600 4,800. Oh, I'd also like to applaud you for having nearly quadrupled my edit count hehe. Cheers. <font color="#DAA520">Teddy Picker 23:45, January 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, thanks for the heads up. = P Chaosian 01:37, January 27, 2012 (UTC)


 *  *Slow clap*  Inflating the edit counter by moving categories around and renaming articles to conform to a standard in dozens, if not hundreeds, is cool. I don't mean to say it's a bad thing, but I'm going to say that does not really deserve praise in my books. Rewriting articles does, on the other hand. 15:14, January 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Quality, not quantity. I have to agree with Komodo on his point. Smokey McPott  [  talk  ] 15:45, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * This is true. I mosly do management which tends to rack up the edit count (I randomly got like 200 edits on the 25th or something) for reason which I can't really recall. Frankly though if it's a number of sheer characters edited then that honor probably goes to Sadist King or Kewlcrayon. You know, the big editors back when there was actual new stuff to write about. Chaosian 02:04, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Recient Poll
Hey, I don't know who does the weekly poll but i love them and look forward to them every week.Anyway the poll for this week is....off.It is not quite correct because the way that it is worded describes that Metro Last Light can't be pre-ordered yet.It can! :)

Hm, it seems you are correct. Gamestop and Amazon has some offers going, but I'm not too sure if this is one of those pre-order bonus offers. I'd probably change the poll, had there not been 32 votes already (changing the poll deletes the results unfortunately). But, I'll put in a note I guess, so there isn't as much confusion. Chaosian 04:13, January 30, 2012 (UTC)